Macintel lost its toolbar...

[Geoffroy]

Bonjour a tous,

Just arriving in the Celestia universe, and discovering this amazing program - congratulations to all contributors, this is really first class stuff.

I downloaded the program (Macintel / OSX10) and it seems to work flawlessly (and beautifully). Immediately started toying with all the view options , and switched to Full Screen Mode: now I feel like I'm looking through an eyepiece on steroids - awsome

And I can't get the "main menu toolbar" back... Sounds stupid (and probably is I tried the [Alt+Ent] : did not toggle that "main menu toolbar" : Gets me the search grey area on the bottom - useful but not the "menu toolbar"...
I read the documentation but obviously missed something. Could anyone point me the right command please ?

THANK YOU
Geoffroy

(can't wait to download the WS comet add-on to compare it with last night's , but gonna wait a bit to master the beast better first

[dirkpitt]

This question has already been answered before (http://shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8855) - please search the forum before posting a question.

Alt+Enter is only for Windows. Please type Cmd+F instead.

[ElChristou]

Dirkpitt,

Geoffroy seems to know how to swith in and off full screen; I think what he mean is that once in full screen the menu bar is not accessible just like this... (for example by approaching the mouse to top of screen)

Geoffroy, for now, the only way to have the menu bar is to call another panel, for example cmd-, for the pref panel...

[DonAVP]

I am runnung Celestia on a G5 and a PC. On the Mac when in full screen you cannot access the menu bar at the top of the screen like on a PC. One of the most important things everyone needs to learn if they want to be good running Celestia is learn the keyboard shortcuts. I only wish they were all the same for PC's and Mac's. The full screen is an example of one that comes to mind. Most of the other are the same.

Don

[dirkpitt]

On the Mac when in full screen you cannot access the menu bar at the top of the screen like on a PC.

I didn't know that, since I don't own a PC. How exactly do you "access" the menu bar when in full screen on a PC?

Having exactly identical keyboard shortcuts for all platforms is a difficult request at best. There are good reasons why for example Alt+Enter is the shortcut for Windows (many Windows apps use Alt+Enter for full screen toggling), while there are equally good reasons why I chose Cmd+F for the Mac (no Mac apps use Alt+Enter, and the concept of an "Alt" key is alien to most Mac users).

But you'll find that almost all of the "core" Celestia keyboard shortcuts (e.g., <Enter> to bring up the text entry console) are available on the Mac. Full screen toggling is not part of the core Celestia feature set, but rather a per-GUI feature and different platforms are free to make available whatever keyboard shortcut makes sense on that platfom GUI.

[selden]

On a PC, when in full-screen mode, Celestia's menu bar appears when you move the cursor into the top few pixel rows of the screen.

[Geoffroy]

Yes, that's what I had understood from the documentation. Would certainly be a pleasant (though minor) feature to include in Mac version.
Keep up the good work.