help installing on mandriva 2006

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help installing on mandriva 2006

Post #1by alexxio » 01.05.2006, 19:43

hi, i can't find the necessary dependencies for compiling....can you help? of course you can! :D

i used both with-gtk and with-kde, and this appears:
checking for deflate in -lz... yes
checking GL/gl.h usability... yes
checking GL/gl.h presence... yes
checking for GL/gl.h... yes
checking for glNewList in -lGL... yes
checking GL/glu.h usability... no
checking GL/glu.h presence... no
checking for GL/glu.h... no
configure: error: No glu.h found. See INSTALL file for help.
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thanks 4 help :D bye

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Post #2by John Van Vliet » 02.05.2006, 08:25

hi i am not shure of mandriva 2006 ( i am on fedora5 ) but i had a prob with mesa-GL until i rebuilt the gl .so's and installd in a new dir and grabed glu.h from freedesktop.org . made 2 small code changes in celengien ( for gcc 4.1)

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Post #3by Boux » 02.05.2006, 08:55

Hi, I am on Mandriva 2006.1
The Mesa Glut development libraries are missing on your system.
The header file glu.h is in the libMesaGlu1-devel-????mdk.i586.rpm if I remember correctly.
To make it simple, just install all devel mesa/glut library packages and you will be done.
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Post #4by alexxio » 02.05.2006, 12:06

good job guys!! i got it! :D:D:D

i love celestia :)

can you please tell me another thing? i can use only basic and multitexture graphic, i have an intel integrated videocard model 82855.. can i get more graphic improvements or not?

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Post #5by Boux » 02.05.2006, 12:26

Hummm,
The Intel graphic "decelerator" is a pos.
Nevertheless, you should be able to get also the OpenGl vertex program path.
You may want to check for an update of the driver.
If you are with a Dell machine, this could be problematic as they are used to lock updates for anything else than their own semi-proprietary/customized drivers.
Your mileage may vary though.
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Post #6by alexxio » 02.05.2006, 18:35

i am on an hp machine...
my drivers are up to date as i know...
should i do something else?

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Post #7by t00fri » 02.05.2006, 18:40

alexxio wrote:i am on an hp machine...
my drivers are up to date as i know...
should i do something else?


Just by yourself a cheap (nvidia) graphics card and plug it in. These integrated chips are worth close to nothing in 3d. I also have this chip lurking around somewhere on my intel motherboard, but of course I would never dream of using it...

HP just wanted to save the money for a decent graphics card, which is OK for a pure business computer.

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Post #8by Boux » 02.05.2006, 19:10

t00fri wrote:
alexxio wrote:i am on an hp machine...
my drivers are up to date as i know...
should i do something else?

Just by yourself a cheap (nvidia) graphics card and plug it in. These integrated chips are worth close to nothing in 3d. I also have this chip lurking around somewhere on my intel motherboard, but of course I would never dream of using it...

HP just wanted to save the money for a decent graphics card, which is OK for a pure business computer.

Bye Fridger


Yep, do yourself a favor and put an Nvidia FX7xxx graphics card in your system.
They are cheap and will change your Celestia and other 3d experience.
Intel integrated chips are just here to enable these cheapo business/office computers to display something.
If you do so, don't forget to disable the on-board chip in the bios.
Doing so, you will also get back the shared memory that this crap is stealing from your machine's resources.
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Post #9by alexxio » 03.05.2006, 10:14

maybe i forgot to say i'm on a laptop :(

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Post #10by selden » 03.05.2006, 10:48

Your visuals will be limited until you upgrade your laptop. Some are available with high-end graphics chipsets or swappable graphics cards. Or until you buy a desktop system. Sorry.
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Post #11by alexxio » 03.05.2006, 10:54

i know the potential of an integrated card over a dedicated, but the changes are so big in celestia if i use a dedicated card???

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Post #12by selden » 03.05.2006, 11:00

Yes.

Please read Q/A#1 in the "Preliminary User's FAQ", which is a sticky near the top of this "Users Forum".

Also, a quick example of some of the "eye candy" that would be available with a better graphics system can be seen at http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/celest ... s.html#3.2
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Post #13by alexxio » 03.05.2006, 11:26

i forgot to say i have the opengl DOT3 ARBVP enlightened (so i can use it) but with that the planets are not visible and istead of them i see gemoetric lines...i read what you submitted but didn't find something interesting..

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Post #14by selden » 03.05.2006, 11:37

Sorry, the FAQ can't help your system draw things that its graphics hardware is unable to display. As it explains, Celestia works best with Nvidia graphics chips, and second best with ATI.

Celestia does have a "wire frame" mode. If you type a Ctrl-W, it should switch between showing the underlying grid and the surface texture. If it only shows the wire-frame, then your graphics drivers have problems.

Sorry.
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Post #15by alexxio » 03.05.2006, 12:53

ok i tried the wireframe mode, but with arbvp drivers making ctrl+W i always see in the same manner...that lines i see are lines in prospective,(i don't see the wires like in multitexture mode.. ) i don't know how to make you see....i'm hoping that i can use the arbvp drivers for having a better celestia experience!!:D


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