Question or advice....

General discussion about Celestia that doesn't fit into other forums.
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Question or advice....

Post #1by Rassilon » 05.08.2002, 19:32

Im think of getting a GeForce Ti4200 64 meg xtasy...has there ever been any reports on it being buggy or slow? Wondering as I saw it on pricewatch for 150 american and that seems cheap for a GF 4...
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Post #2by tommy » 05.08.2002, 20:20

No problems at all I have had a Ti4200 for about two months and works great with Celestia.


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Post #3by Paul » 06.08.2002, 00:52

You might consider getting a 128meg card as it would allow more higher-res textures to run with Celestia... it's something I'm considering. If I upscaled the Blue Marble texture to 32768x16384, that would fit on a 128meg card, right? Or would I need a 256meg card? :)
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Post #4by chris » 06.08.2002, 01:07

Paul wrote:You might consider getting a 128meg card as it would allow more higher-res textures to run with Celestia... it's something I'm considering. If I upscaled the Blue Marble texture to 32768x16384, that would fit on a 128meg card, right? Or would I need a 256meg card? :)

A 32768x16384 texture map would require an unholy amount of memory . . . 320 megs for the texture + mipmaps. For anything larger than 16384x8192, Celestia is going to have to get clever with loading texture segments from disk only as they're needed. KeyHole's Earth viewer software has certainly shown that it's possible . . .

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Post #5by Thilo » 06.08.2002, 01:14

I guess the function to describe the needed amount of memory for a certain solution is quadratic ..
Ever looked at school at these nice parabels and how they go up faaaaaaaaaaaaaar into the vastness of number space if you only go from x=9 to x=10?

I think then you can imagine whats it like with the high res textures here ;)

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Post #6by Rassilon » 06.08.2002, 19:10

I saw an MSI GF4 Ti 4400 128 meg on ebay I might get instead...Its for about 250 american...

Any bad reports on MSI? I figure I cant go wrong with that price :mrgreen:
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Post #7by Azagoth » 06.08.2002, 20:15

Rassilon,

That MSI GeForce4 Ti 4400 128DDR is the exact same card that I have just brought. I have been running it knoe for about a 2 weeks and can safely say it is a awesome card for the money.

I got the OEM version (?204) as I didn't need all the Games and software DVD player that comes with the retail version. It does however come with a extensive variety of drivers and tweaking tools, such as Video In/Video out (S-video), DVI to CRT converter (for 2 CRT's). Also quite a few cables.

On the gaming front, I play CFS2 and SOF2 on and offline, I have noticed FPS rates jumping from around 10-20(old TNT2) upto 70-100+(New Ti4400). Before you ask, I didn't metion Celestia 'cause you probably know what I'm going to say anyway. It blew me away, now I can use specular reflections and Hi-res .dds textures

I say go for it, you'll be impressed fo sure.
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Post #8by Rassilon » 06.08.2002, 23:47

Cool...Thanks everyone soon I will have a decent card and no more ugly black squares :D Im definately going with the Ti 4400...

Just one more weeks wait is all... Just in time for Celestia's update!
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Post #9by Azagoth » 07.08.2002, 00:14

Good Choice Rasillon, you won't be dissapointed :)
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Post #10by Pixel_ » 07.08.2002, 09:27

chris wrote:
Paul wrote:You might consider getting a 128meg card as it would allow more higher-res textures to run with Celestia... it's something I'm considering. If I upscaled the Blue Marble texture to 32768x16384, that would fit on a 128meg card, right? Or would I need a 256meg card? :)
A 32768x16384 texture map would require an unholy amount of memory . . . 320 megs for the texture + mipmaps. For anything larger than 16384x8192, Celestia is going to have to get clever with loading texture segments from disk only as they're needed. KeyHole's Earth viewer software has certainly shown that it's possible . . .

--Chris



People can run 16K dds Earth texture on 32Mb Gf2 flawlessly. So i suppose that 32K texture should work in the same way with 128Mb vram. The trick is to have enough system ram however. But i don?t know is it worth trying - loading of such monster from disk will take minutes...
and Chris, have you tried Celestia without mipmaping - what it looks like? Does it indeed shimmer?


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