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my unknown files

Post #1by maxim » 14.01.2004, 19:24

I've found some files that seems to be addons or parts of addons. But cant find the sources or the purpose for them. If anyone recognizes them, please give me a hint:

pearth.zip
Pluto_concept4.zip
deepimpact_impactormodel.zip


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Post #2by JackHiggins » 14.01.2004, 19:56

deepimpact_impactormodel is mine anyway- it's a model of the impactor part of the Deep Impact spacecraft, which will crash into comet Tempel-1 in 2006. Theres an xyz file with it too- you ccan get it off the interplanetary spacecraft page on my website.

No idea what the others are...

//actually...

pluto_concept4 - maybe one of the many pluto textures going around back when there was debate over scientific or artistic planet textures...?
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Post #3by maxim » 17.01.2004, 22:14

The others seemed to be prereleases of addons provided with Franks educational activities.

JackHiggins wrote:deepimpact_impactormodel is mine anyway- it's a model of the impactor part of the Deep Impact spacecraft, which will crash into comet Tempel-1 in 2006. Theres an xyz file with it too- you ccan get it off the interplanetary spacecraft page on my website.


Unfortunately not. These two files have broken links. :(
There is at least one other broken link in one of your two spacecrafts pages, but I don't remember which.

BTW: How did you made the picture of ten SL9 fragments, when there are only 4 available on your site? :wink:

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Post #4by JackHiggins » 17.01.2004, 22:35

8O

I didn't know of any broken links on the site... Those are both fixed now though! If you see which other link isn't working- tell me please! I don't have any website design program (FrontPage etc) so I cant check automatically... (I'm one of those amazing people who just use a graphics program and a text editor for HTML :wink: )

Hehe... 8) I have xyz's for all 21 actually- but I never got more than 4 finished, so the others have very poor resolution at the impact time! Like I said on the SL9 page, check back around March 2200 for the final versions... :wink: If I ever get around to it, i'll get them finished.
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Post #5by maxim » 17.01.2004, 23:31

JackHiggins wrote:If you see which other link isn't working- tell me please!


The other one was the 'Mars Exploration Rovers- cruise trajectory' a little bit above.

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Post #6by JackHiggins » 18.01.2004, 01:14

Thanks- that's now fixed too!
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Re: my unknown files

Post #7by Jeam Tag » 18.01.2004, 10:00

maxim wrote:I've found some files that seems to be addons or parts of addons. But cant find the sources or the purpose for them. If anyone recognizes them, please give me a hint:
pearth.zip
Pluto_concept4.zip
deepimpact_impactormodel.zip


Jack answered you for his nice model.
Seems to me that the first is the Primitive Earth project by Rassilon (See images on my pages 'Fictions'http://jeam.tag.free.fr/CELESTIAhtml/CelestiaAddons-Fictions1 Is it the same one?)
The second looks likes the various well textured Pluto by Don Edwards (See http://jeam.tag.free.fr/CELESTIAhtml/CelestiaAddons-SystemeSolaire-Pluton Is it the same one?)
If it can help. Jeam
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Post #8by Don. Edwards » 18.01.2004, 12:40

Maxim,
Pluto concept 4 is one of my creations. I use names like from time to time so I can identify what I have done. See it worked. :wink:

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I might answer a PM or a post if its relevant to something.

Ah, never say never!!
Past texture releases, Hmm let me think about it

Thanks for your understanding.

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Post #9by Jeam Tag » 18.01.2004, 13:16

JackHiggins wrote://actually...
pluto_concept4 - maybe one of the many pluto textures going around back when there was debate over scientific or artistic planet textures...?


Yes, Don. Edwards', as he and I answered to Maxim. In the Pluto page in my catalogue I explain the debate: limit of Knowledge or 'licence po?tique' (french idiomatic, don't known the english one: 'Artistic licence'?) for a better detailed texture... All are nice, depending of what the use is..
Hope i noticed all the alternate visions, to people chooses his preffered one :? (Yes, mine is Don's... but the Praesepe one is nice too :lol: Enjoy!)
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Post #10by JackHiggins » 18.01.2004, 14:46

In the Pluto page in my catalogue I explain the debate: limit of Knowledge or 'licence po?tique' (french idiomatic, don't known the english one: 'Artistic licence'?) for a better detailed texture... All are nice, depending of what the use is..

Yes, we have the phrase "poetic license" in english too! :)
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Post #11by Jeam Tag » 18.01.2004, 20:20

JackHiggins wrote:Yes, we have the phrase "poetic license" in english too! :)
Thanks, Jack.
So, in my mind, these 'Pluto Affair' is a good summary of what Celestia can offer: an eternal confrontation enters the most exact possible reflection of knowledge and the poetic licence, the interpretation of the data to dream better and further. It's formidable: the two options are also useful, obviously, and their dialogue makes it possible each one to apprehend the universe according to its needs. Celestia is formidable. Jeam
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Post #12by maxim » 19.01.2004, 16:16

Thank you all for your help.

Don,
I found that I had a similar already. It's part of one of Franks educational activities (I think part 6) and a little more sandcolored. Obviously another of your concepts. I've put concept4 to the other one into the AltSufaces menu because I haven't yet decided which one I like more. :wink:

Jeam Tag,
yes it seems to be the primitive earth addon. I was not shure about, because there is an older fantasy story called 'Dragonriders of Pearth' (could also be 'Dragonriders of Perm' I don't remember well, because it's some time ago) which came into my mind for it.

I will shurely tell you about some more orphants that I'll find during my addons cleanup.

Have fun :D

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Post #13by granthutchison » 19.01.2004, 16:34

Pern.

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Post #14by maxim » 19.01.2004, 16:52

Oh!

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Post #15by Jeam Tag » 19.01.2004, 21:38

maxim wrote:Oh!

'Oh!' what?
[Off Topic, maybe] Remenber: planet Pern is the framework of a famous series of Anne Mac Caffrey (the principal history, 5 novels, is remarkable, the prequel ones are less interresting, IMHO) who tells the fight of the descendant colonists (having forgotten their origins) irregularly confronted with a particular astronomical phenomenon, the return of a planet which bombards Pern of particles particularly destroying. (the conjunctions of these two celestial bodies could be an interessant problem for an establishment in Celestia)
Foot-note: Pern is well charted, in the books, and does'nt look like 'Primitive Earth' by Rassilon: one of its characteristic is that the oceans encircle planet on the level of the southern tropics, IIRC... Jeam
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Post #16by maxim » 19.01.2004, 23:43

'Oh!' in the sense of
'Oops, yes :oops: - now that you say, I remember the name'.

I read the book when I was in my early teens, so it's quite some time ago. I know I was very impressed, and I know I did read a second book. That's all what I kept in my mind - and the about title. I didn't know that it had been five books in the end, and that there where maps and such things. 8O

I think I was just associating the name phonetic and the red-orange coloring with 'Pern' and 'Dragons'. But - I would like to see a planet 'Pern' in Celestia. :wink:

maxim. :D

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Post #17by Jeam Tag » 20.01.2004, 01:13

maxim wrote:'Oh!' in the sense of 'Oops, yes :oops: - now that you say, I remember the name'.
Right, thanks (English is not my native language) :!:
I read the book when I was in my early teens, so it's quite some time ago. I know I was very impressed, and I know I did read a second book.
Oops, maybe 20 titles, now! All not very interresting, here, but the syzygy problem in the main story is a nice challenge...
Science Fiction purposes a lot of great challenges for Celestia releases, some of them are released: SpaceLift, Terraformed Mars, RingWorld.. Others would be greats: Rocheworld, or my preferred: Dyson Sphere...
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