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the point setting is my favorite but on my new laptop it does this funny square thing. i have the same installation of 1.6.1 and some add-ons that i moved with a flash drive. i've updated drivers for both intel and nvidia. it's currently running in a documents folder but was previously running in program files (moved it to fix the bookmark permissions issue). there's a pre-restoration thread about this issue in the bugs forum, but it didn't help. it would be great if someone could show me what's wrong. in the meantime i'll be testing different installations and add-ons to see what i can find.

are you using the Nvidia driver provided by Microsoft???
auto installed with updates -- the ones you can NOT unselect any more
the one that will auto replace the version from the nvidia web site wit ha opengl broken version



then reinstall from nvidia
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
and reinstall after the next windows update

Microsofts new settings that you can not unselect updates
all or none in win10
have fun windows users

"we are the Microsoft ... you will be assimilated, resistance is futile ! "

unfortunately it didn't solve the problem. that's terrifying though. if only i felt confident enough to go arch like all of my friends.

i am using the 170 QT build on linux so you might not have this
with Celestia running under help is opengl info
copy paste it

You mention updating Nvidia drivers but the OpenGL info you've provided shows that Intel graphics hardware is being used.

If your laptop is one which has dual Intel/Nvidia hardware, try switching to using the Nvidia graphics hardware instead of the Intel graphics hardware. Traditionally, Intel's OpenGL drivers have been much buggier than Nvidia's.

nardo, I experience the same issue. It works if I tell my computer to launch Celestia with my nvidia graphic processor instead of the built-in intel. It was a bit tricky to tell me system to do this by default. I just got it to work while writing this post...

YES! it works! thanks, everyone. to think it was so simple...
hopefully it works with the windows drivers too so i don't have to manually update.

alright so this worked for a little bit and then something new started happening (or was always happening and i didn't notice).

magic triangles

i noticed it shortly after the last problem was fixed and tried some home remedies like updating and downgrading. it's not too annoying because it only happens in the corner of the screen while moving. basically, this flickering lag in the shape of a triangle appears, mostly in the top left corner. it's especially noticeable when moving in on a planet:



i've only managed to capture one screenshot so far, so then i tried shooting a video, and strangely enough it was actually worse on video than live:



here's the opengl info. any tips?

Spoiler

Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation

Renderer: GeForce 940MX/PCIe/SSE2

Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 372.70

GLSL version: 4.50 NVIDIA

Max simultaneous textures: 4

Max texture size: 16384

Max cube map size: 16384

Point size range: 1.000000 - 189.875000



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i noticed it shortly after the last problem was fixed and tried some home remedies like updating and downgrading.

that right there can cause problems with MS Windows10
you really do not have control of drivers and things anymore with the changes in win10

you have a combo intel/nvidia Optimums chip it looks like

so... go linux or go home?

no but you need to set what is used for graphics
the CPU or the GPU

it should be in the documentation for this laptop
there might even be a over ride in the nvidia configure tools

dans Celestia, essayez ctrl "v", plusieurs fois pour changer le comportement de OpenGl

In Celestia, try ctrl "v" several times to change the behavior of OpenGl