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While working on my improved atmopheric parameters for Earth I was made aware on the discord that back in the day, chris developed a tool called "scattersim" and posted a compiled version on the Celestial Matters forum. Using the Wayback Machine you can still download the executable. It's a commandline based programm that reads config files, for example provided on github.

A quck run using the titan2 config file:



Gives a stunning result:



Would it be possible to implement atmopheric scattering using the code of this scatter simulator, if it's still saved on github? The current atmospheric modeling is really messy and produces several visible artifacts that are hard to overlook.

Looking at the data, you can clearly see that the scale heights for the different effects (Rayleigh, Mie and Absorption) differ vastly. Would it at the very least be possible to allow for these scale height parameters to be individually defined? Thinking back at a dicussion with steve albers I remember there is code avaliable in Celestia that already defines RayleighScaleHeight but for some reason this parameter is not used.

There are several tutorials on the internet how to implement atmospheric scattering, but i haven't checked them against neither glsl nor scattersim code yet. Actually scattersim may not work now

Oh well. How so?
While trying to apply some of the parameters to what Celestia does atm, it became very obvious that Celestia completely cuts of atmophereric rendering at idk... 2 scale heights or soemthing? For a start increasing (or removing?) this limit would help improve rendering already.

FarGetaNik wrote:Oh well. How so?

It uses old inhome vector library replaced with Eigen, and as the rest of Celestia uses Eigen, we simply unable to build it. I have a branch with scattersim updated to Eigen, but I never had a reference implementation to check its output, afair it returns a black filled file. Now with the files you have found I'll try to fix port scatersim to Eigen properly.

FarGetaNik wrote:idk

What?

onetwothree wrote:It uses old inhome vector library replaced with Eigen, and as the rest of Celestia uses Eigen, we simply unable to build it. I have a branch with scattersim updated to Eigen, but I never had a reference implementation to check its output, afair it returns a black filled file. Now with the files you have found I'll try to fix port scatersim to Eigen properly.

I see, that's a hope at least.

idk = I don't know. I was trying to say that I estimate the cutoff is at around 2 scale heights (I didn't bother measuring) but it's vey apparent that this cutoff is too low for realistic renders. No matter what you do, you will always be left with this hard border.